Phool ki patti sey kut saktaa hey heerey kaa jigar
Mard-e-Naadaan peh kalam Narm-o-Naazik bey athar.
(Iqbal)
Wish You All The Best
Truly Your
MUHAMMAD AFSAR KHAN RAZA
Saudi Arabia: afsarkhanraza@yahoo.com
From: Fahad Ashrafi <fahad_yamin@hotmail.com>
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Sent: Sun, March 20, 2011 1:00:57 AM
Subject: FW: [Yaadein_Meri] FW: ANSWERS FOR SAJID HUSSAIN ~!~ Giyarween Shareef ~!~
DEOBANDIYON KAY AKABIRON NAY JO IBARAT APNI KITABOON MAIN LIKH DI HAIN WO SARA SAR HAZOOR S.A.W KI SHAAN MAIN TOHEEN HAIN.....OR JO USSAY TOHEEN NA MANAY WO BHI USS TOHEEN MAIN UTNA HI HISSAY DAR HAI.....BAMZI SAAB HARMAIN SHARIFAIN KAY 33 ULMA OR HINDUSTAN KAY 263 ULMA NAY DEOGANDION KI INN IBARAT PER FATWA-E-KUFER DIYA HAI........KYA TUM UNN SAB SAY ZIYADA ILM O BASEERAT RAKHTAY HO......OR TAVEELAIN DAY RAHAY HO.......JAHIL INSAN KYA TUMHAIN YE BHI MALOOM NAHI HAI KAY GUSTAKH KA SUPPORTER BHI GUSTAKH HOTA HAI.........OR GUSTAKH KA HARAMI HONA TO QURAN-O-HADEES SAY SABIT HAI........TUM NAY JO BHI TAVEELAT PAISH KI HAIN WO SAB KI SAB BAYKAR HAIN.......
Ab tum nay jo jawabat diye or taveelat paish ki wo inn ibarat ko sahi kernay kay liye hargiz kafi nahi.....jaisay kay lafz HARAMI arabic main Choor ko kehtay hain or urdu main ye ek gali hai.....iss tarah agar main tumhain harami keh don or baad main taveel don kay main nay arabic wala harami use kiya hai...to kya tum apnay ap ko harami maan lo gay......jabkay hamare urf e aam main harami gali hai......Ab masla sirf ye hai kay jab thanvi or nanootvi saab nay ya ismael dehlvi saab nay jab aisi ibarat likhi , ab thori dair kay liye agar hum ye tasleem bhi ker lain kay wo us waqt lazoom e kufr say ghafil thay ya na jantay thay kay ye ibarat had e kufr tak pohunchti hai......likin ummat e muslima nay ussay gustakhi hi tasawar kiya or barha ulma e haq nay unn ko iss baat per dawat e rajooh paish kee ta kay wo apni inn ibarat say dobara rajooh ker lain ta kay mamla awam main mashoor na ho.....likin aisa nahi howa or bar bar tambiya kay bawajood wo inn ibarat ko sahi qarar daitay rahay or taveelat paish kertay rahe.....jab kay chahiye ye tha kay unn ibarat say dobara rajooh kiya jata or un ko darust kiya jata or mamlay ki nazakat ko samgha jata.....bahar kaif aisa nahi ho saka or wo beghair rajooh kay dunya say chalay gaye.....ab ummat e muslima ka iss baat per ijmah hai kay jo hazoor S.A.W ki shaan e aqdat main toheen wala jumla chahay niyaatun bolay ya beghair niyaat kay.....ussay toheen hi tasawar kiya jaye ga.....baaz log toheen ko waqfiyat per mokoof raktay hain.....or iss ziman main Mulla Ali Qari R.A ka ferman mojood hai.....dekho SHIFFA SHAREEF JILD # 2.....JAHIL DEOBANDI KASH KAY TU KUCH PERHA LIKHA HOTA......QURAN O HADEES SAY TO TUMHAIN KUCH ALAQA NAHI...KAM AZ KAM APNAY ULMA KO HI PERH LO......YA WO BHI HUM TUMHAIN PERHAYAIN.......AOO DEKHO TUMHARA MOVLI KYA KEHTA HAI......
Deobandiyon kay mashoor Molvi Anwar Shah deobandi nay iss mamlay per guftago apni kitaab Alkuffar ul Mulhadeen page 62 main ki hai....or kehta hai kay ( agar taveel sarahat main bhi paish ki jaye tab bhi fasid ho gi....or taveel e fasid khud bamanzila kufer ki tarah hai )
Issi tarah Habib ibn rabeeh nay bhi fermaya kay lafz e sareeh main taveel ka dawa qabool hi nahi kiya jata...
lihaza hasil e guftago ye hai kay jo kalam mafhoom e toheen main sareeh ho ab iss main koi taveel nahi ki ja sakti kyon kay taveel khud bamanzila kufer ki tarah hai.....(coz aisi taveel kufer ko chupati hai or aag say khailnay kay mutaradif hai..)
shan e Risaalat s.a.w ka mozoon intihayi nazuk or aag say khailnay kay mutaradif hai...kahin janay anjanay main koi gustakhi ya taveelun jumla nikal gaya to iman kay janay ki khabar tak na ho gi......baharkaif main sajid or bazmi say yahi kehon ga kay hazoor s.a.w ki shaan e aqdas main gustakhi say baaz rahain....or iss kay ilawa hamari koi zaati larai nahi hai....
Ab chaho to mazeed iss per taveelat ka silsila shuro ker lo.....ya agar chaho to thanday dimagh say iss mamlay ki gehrai ko samaghnay ki kosish kero....ye ab tumhari apni marzi hai......
FAHAD ASHRAFI
To: Yaadein_Meri@yahoogroups.com
From: soul_of_bazm@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 03:57:26 -0700
Subject: Re: [Yaadein_Meri] FW: ANSWERS FOR SAJID HUSSAIN ~!~ Giyarween Shareef ~!~
Reply
fahd brother ..agar ap main aqal ho to ap k alfaz main ur in books k alfaz main asman zameen ka farq hey.. main us ki tafseel ap k hawalon k sath darj karney laga hon ..
1--Al- Baraheen al Qitaa...
---------------------- yahan ap ghor karo to ye alfaz tardeed main hen jo k sahib e kitab ap jesey kisi gustakh ki gustakhi ko bayan farma rahey hen ... or yahan sirf sahib e kitab ye batana chah rahey hen k her Khalq ka ilm utna hi hey jitna k Allah ne usey tofeeq di hey ... or ghaib ka ilm Allah k siwa koi nahin jan sakta .
tum ne Iqbal ka shar naql kia ... us main Momin ko Nabi Akram S.A.W ki kamali sifat ka hawal dya ja raha hey ..or jis bat ka izhar the great IQbal farma rahey hen us se ap to kosooon door ho ...
2--Al- Baraheen al Qitaa... sahib e kitab ne baja farmaya ... Nabi kareem S.A.W alim ul Ghaib nahin ..
Qura'an main Allah farmatey hen ......
Soorat Al Baqarah : ayat 31se le ker 38 tak ka tarjuma ap khud Qura'an majeed main dekhen .. main yahan zyadti ki wajah se nahin likh raha ..but chand ayaat zroor likhonga ..
soorat al Nissa : ayat 113---- agar Allah ka fazl o karam tujh par na hota to un ki ek jamaat ne to tujhey behkaney ka qasad kar hi lya tha magar dar asal ye apney ap ko gumrah kartey hen , ye tere kuch nahin bigad saktey , ALLAH ne tujh per kitab o hikmat utar di hey or tujhey wo sikhaya hey jisey to nahin janta tha, or Allah ka tujh per bada bhari fazal hey ...
soorat Al Maeedah ayat 109-----jis roz Allah tamam Peghambaron ko jama karega phir irshad farmay ga k tum ko kia jawab mila tha to wo arz karengey Ham ko kuch khabar nahin tu hi beshak posheedah baton ko poora janney wala hey ...
mazeed dekhen ayat 116
Soorat al Ana'am ayat 50---- Ap (S.A.W) keh de jye k na to main tum se ye kehta hon k merey pas Allah k khazaney hen or na main ghaib janta hon or na main tum se ye kehta hon k main farishta hon- main to sirf jo kuch merey pas wahi ati hey us ka ittiba'a karta hon AP kahye k andha beena kahin barabar ho sakta hey so kai tum ghor nahin kartey ....
is k ilawa bhi mazeed ayat e Qura'ani is ki daleel hen ... dost tum ne sajid bhai se kaha k kia koi tumhari man behen ko gali dey to kia tum mufti se poochney jao gay ? fahad brother ek bar gali to de ker dekho ...wesey agar main kahon k tumharey bap ne tum ko jana hey na k tumhari man ne ... to kia tum chup betho gay ...yahan to main tumharey walid sahib main mazeed ek sifat badha raha hon tumhen to khush hona chahye na .... well aisey hi agar ham limit cross kartey hen to wo ghalat hi hota hey ...
3--Hifzul Eeman ---- yahan sahib e Kitab Ilm e ghaib ki takhsses par kalam farma rahey hen ... agar ap ko urdu ki thodi bohot bhi samajh hey to ap itney qabeeh alfaz na likhtey jo k ap ne sahib e kitab se mansoob kye hen ... yahan sahib e kitab ilm eghaib ki takhsees ki behes main sawal utha rahey hen k kia ye ilm e ghaib wo hey jo kar her us bachey ko ya aqal se mawara insan ko bhi hey .??? hosh k nakhun lo brother ...
4--Sirat e Mustaqeem--- yahan bat namaz k doran apni soch ka rukh zina ki taraf honey per behes ho rahi hey or us main kaha gaya k zina k waswasey se behter apni Biwi se jima socha zina se kuch theek hey or agar us Muashrey k badtareen fail ko Nabi Kareem S.A.W ya apney shiekh k taraf mod dena apney bel gadhey ki soorat ko dekhney se bura hey .... kuch samajh ai ?? aqal se budhu ... kis bat ko kahan le ja kar mila rahey ho ... tumhen zara sharm nahin itna badey alfaz likhney ki jurrat kesey hoi ??
5---Fatawa Rasheedyah---- yahan mufti sahib ne durust farmaya but ap ne sirf shroo ka jumla uchak lya shetan k kamon main madadgar to ho hi tum log... yahan mufti sahib ne kaha Nabi Kareem S.A.W sab main a'ala hey batawel dossry anbya o buzrugon k lye kaha ja sakta hey ( Bataweel)
6----Tehzeerunnas---- yahan anotwi sahib ne likha hey k ''awam k khayal main to Rasool Allah S.A.W ka khatim hona BAEN meaning hen k ap S.A.W ka zamana ambya sabiq k baad or ap sab main akhri Nabi hen
magar ahl e faham ''... nanotwi sahib k kalam main hasar ka koi kalimah mojood hi nahin, agar wo likhtey k BAEN meanign hi he 'ya' sif Baen meaning he , to hasar ka dawa ho sakta tha ,,,magar ab fahad brotehr ap k nam nihad mullaon ka ye dawa hey k is main hasar mojood hey....qataan jhoot hey or bachkana taslli k siwa kuch nahin ....phir nanotwi sahib ne ahle fahem ki numaindagi karte howey jo aitirazat kye hen wo sarey k sarey Nabi Kareem S.A.W k akhri nabi honey per hen na k hasar par , mazeed ye k kkhatamunnabieen ka masnoon o mutawatir o qatae o ijmae ma'ane o tafseer faqat akhri Nabi hi hey or is ma'ane per aitirazat kar k koi naya ma'ane eejad karna yaqeenan tafseer bil rae k zumrey main ata hey ,yaqeenan aisey nadan ka islam baraey nam hey ....
7 --- Taqwyat ul Emaan --- merey dost ye aitiraz jo kia hey is per khud hi ek bar phir nazar dal lo ...
... maine tumharey her aitiraz ko batil kar dya hey ... aitiraz karo to wo karo jo samjah bhi aye ..is tarah ki bohtan tarazi ,,,tumhra jhoota honey k lye kafi hey ....
Khabardar jo in Islam k alam bardaron per ungli uthaney ki koshish ki to ...abhi un k tulaba zinda hen ... tum or tumharey farangi dost jo chahey karlen Islam hamesha paindah raheyga or jab islam na hoga to dunya bhi na hogi ..wo din qayamat ka ho ga..
Allah ham sab ko hamesha rah e hidayat p chaley..ameen
From: Fahad Ashrafi <fahad_yamin@hotmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 4:44 AM
Subject: [Yaadein_Meri] FW: ANSWERS FOR SAJID HUSSAIN ~!~ Giyarween Shareef ~!~
Sajid saab ap ki baatain sun ker bohot hairangi hoi hai........koi bhi musalman hazoor s.a.w ki shaan main gustakhana alfaz ko aisay nahi keh sakta kay Allah janay kay ye gustakhana hain kay nahi ham nahi jantay mufti say pocho.....laholawala quwata illah billah......agar koi ap kay maa, baap, behen, bhai ko bura bhala kahay ya gali bakay to kya ap mufti say ja ker pochtay hain???....kya ye hi hamari hazoor s.a.w say mohabbat ka taqaza hai???????.......koi hazoor s.a.w kay ilm ko mazallah janwaron or paglon kay ilm say tashbee day or hum yahi kehtay rahay kay muftee say ja ker pocho......meray dost ap bohot ghalti per hain...........ye baat yaad rakhain kay agar hazoor s.a.w ki shaan-e-aqdas ka taqqadas nahi to kuch bhi nahi.......
Or ye yahodiyon ki sab say bari sazish thi jisay Allama Iqbal nay samgha or biyan ker diya........
Ye Faqa kash ke jo maut se darta nhi lekin
Rohe-e-Muhammad is ke badan se nikal do
wo roh-e-mohammadi badan say nikalti nazar aa rahi hai........Allah maaf fermaye......
sajid quote: AUR RAHI AAPKI SAWAL, TO MAIN YE KAHUNGA KE AAP JAB TAK MUJHE OON FIRQON KI BAARE MAIN OONKI QITAAB SE OONKI AQAID KO BAYAN NAHI KARTE TAB TAK MAIN KUCH NAHI KEH SAKTA....
Unquote : jinab ap kya samghtay hain....kya hum wahabi deobandiyon per Gustakhi ka jhoota ilzam lagatay hain........chalain ayain ap khud dekh lain.......books ki scan send ker raha hon....ek bhi hawala jhoota sabit kernay walay ko 1 lakh ka inaam don ga........
SAJID SAAB AGAR AP KAY ANDER THORA SA BHI IMAN HAI OR THORI SI BHI HAZOOR S.A.W KI MOHABBAT HAI TO YAKEENAN AP INN GUSTAKHANA IBARAAT PER LAANAT BHAIG KER HAZOOR S.A.W SAY APNAY MOHABBAT KA SABOOT DAIN GAY....OR AGAR YE SARAY HAWALAY DEKNAY KAY BAAD BHI SAJID SAAB TAVEEL PAISH KERAIN TO MERAY PAS JAWABAN WO QURAN KI AYAT HAI KAY.......LAQUM DEENO KUM WALYADEEN......OR MAIN SAJID SAAB KAY LIYE SIRF DUA KER SAKTA HON.......KAY ALLAH UN KO HADAYAT OR SACHAY AQEEDAY SAY NAWAZAY........OR HAZOOR S.A.W KI SACHI MOHABBAT NASEEB FERMAYE..........
FAHAD ASHRAFI
Or ye yahodiyon ki sab say bari sazish thi jisay Allama Iqbal nay samgha or biyan ker diya........
Ye Faqa kash ke jo maut se darta nhi lekin
Rohe-e-Muhammad is ke badan se nikal do
wo roh-e-mohammadi badan say nikalti nazar aa rahi hai........Allah maaf fermaye......
sajid quote: AUR RAHI AAPKI SAWAL, TO MAIN YE KAHUNGA KE AAP JAB TAK MUJHE OON FIRQON KI BAARE MAIN OONKI QITAAB SE OONKI AQAID KO BAYAN NAHI KARTE TAB TAK MAIN KUCH NAHI KEH SAKTA....
Unquote : jinab ap kya samghtay hain....kya hum wahabi deobandiyon per Gustakhi ka jhoota ilzam lagatay hain........chalain ayain ap khud dekh lain.......books ki scan send ker raha hon....ek bhi hawala jhoota sabit kernay walay ko 1 lakh ka inaam don ga........
SAJID SAAB AGAR AP KAY ANDER THORA SA BHI IMAN HAI OR THORI SI BHI HAZOOR S.A.W KI MOHABBAT HAI TO YAKEENAN AP INN GUSTAKHANA IBARAAT PER LAANAT BHAIG KER HAZOOR S.A.W SAY APNAY MOHABBAT KA SABOOT DAIN GAY....OR AGAR YE SARAY HAWALAY DEKNAY KAY BAAD BHI SAJID SAAB TAVEEL PAISH KERAIN TO MERAY PAS JAWABAN WO QURAN KI AYAT HAI KAY.......LAQUM DEENO KUM WALYADEEN......OR MAIN SAJID SAAB KAY LIYE SIRF DUA KER SAKTA HON.......KAY ALLAH UN KO HADAYAT OR SACHAY AQEEDAY SAY NAWAZAY........OR HAZOOR S.A.W KI SACHI MOHABBAT NASEEB FERMAYE..........
FAHAD ASHRAFI
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 14:46:37 -0700
From: saj0205037@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: FW: ANSWERS FOR SAJID HUSSAIN ~!~ Giyarween Shareef ~!~
To: fahad_yamin@hotmail.com
CC: yaadein_meri@yahoogroups.com
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